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  The Illusion of Superiority

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
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  after reading dozens and dozens of posts and hundreds of comments, it seems to me that a great many people on this forum think that since they figured out ttatt, they must therefore be a highly intelligent and incredibly rational individual.

  let me take a moment to congratulate everyone.

  its a big step to figure this out - i know.. that said, it doesn't make you a genius!

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  What are you talkiing about? I didn't misspell the word congra- . . . Oh snap, well look at that.

  Okay, let me edit my post with the correct spelling before I go crawl under a rock and die of embarrassment.
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  The Illusion of Superiority

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after reading dozens and dozens of posts and hundreds of comments, it seems to me that a great many people on this forum think that since they figured out ttatt, they must therefore be a highly intelligent and incredibly rational individual.

  let me take a moment to congratulate everyone.

  its a big step to figure this out - i know.. that said, it doesn't make you a genius!

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  After reading dozens and dozens of posts and hundreds of comments, it seems to me that a great many people on this forum think that since they figured out TTATT, they must therefore be a highly intelligent and incredibly rational individual. Let me take a moment to congratulate everyone. Its a big step to figure this out - I know.

  That said, IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU A GENIUS! Nor does it make you a rational person. In fact, there is a great number of people on this forum who don't seem to understand even the most basic tennants of logic. Ironically, the people who don't understand logic are usually the quickest ones to accuse other people of being "illogical." And, I would venture to guess, almost everyone who has read this far is currently nodding their heads and thinking to themselves - "Yes, there are a lot of people who are bad at logic on this site." - without even the slightest consideration that they may fall into that catagory.

  Which brings me to my point: The illusion of superiority. Consider the following:

  The Dunning-Kruger effect, named after David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University, occurs where people fail to adequately assess their level of competence — or specifically, their incompetence — at a task and thus consider themselves much more competent than everyone else. This lack of awareness is attributed to their lower level of competence robbing them of the ability to critically analyse their performance, leading to a significant overestimate of themselves.

  The Dunning-Kruger effect is a slightly more specific case of the bias known as illusory superiority, where people tend to overestimate their good points in comparison to others around them, while concurrently underestimating their negative points. The effect has been shown by experiment in several ways, but in this case Dunning and Kruger tested students on a series of criteria such as humour, grammar, and logic and compared the actual test results with each student's own estimation of their performance.

  Those who scored well on these tests were shown, consistently, to underestimate their performance. This is not terribly surprising and can be explained as a form of psychological projection: those who found the tasks easy (and thus scored highly) mistakenly thought that they would also be easy for others. This is similar to the aforementioned "impostor syndrome" — found notably in graduate students and high-achieving women — whereby high achievers fail to recognise their talents as they think that others must be equally good.

  More interestingly, and the subject of what became known as the Dunning-Kruger effect, those who scored lowest on the test were found to have "grossly overestimated" their scores.

  So all this begs the question, how do you know if you're good at logic or if you're bad at logic? Well, the first question you should ask is yourself is: Do I know what logic is?

  I know this seems very basic question but, seriously, take a moment and ask yourself, right now, do you know what the definition of logic is? I'm NOT talking about a synonym like: Logic is thinking rationally. That's just replacing one word with another. I'm talking about an actuall, functional, description that could identify the meaning of logic.

  If you can't, don't feel bad. But consider this, whatever grasp you have on logic right now, being able to define what it is would help you use it even better. Because if you can't even define it, how will you be able to identify it when it's being used? Or misused?

  Have you ever studied logic?

  Do you know anything about the pillars of logic:

  Epistemology

  Inductive Reasoning

  Deductive Reasoning

  Abductive Reasoning

  Instrumental Rationality

  Syllogisms

  Logical Absolutes

  Synthetic and Analytic Distinctions

  If you don't know what these things are - FIND OUT! I promise you, learning a little bit about the methodolgy and sturcture of logic is one of the best things you can do. Its like bumbling through a dark room and someone suddenly flipping on the light. You will see things that you never saw before and you will start learning things you once thought it was impossible to ever know.
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  Come on! Tell it like it is. People are LYING when they tell you, "I've read the Bible."

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  go ahead.

  tell me.. "i've read the bible cover to cover.

  i don't believe you.. it is damned near impossible!.

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  Genisis: Hmm, that was . . . interesting.

  Exodous: Ehh.

  Leviticus: Ugh.

  Numbers: Soooo boring and monotenous!

  Deurteronmy: Didn't I already read this passage like 7 times already?

  Joshua: Genocidal Israelites! Exactly what kind of "moral" system do they think they have here?

  Judges: WTF? Genocide again? How many nations can the Israilites slaughter? . . . And Jepthah did WHAT to his daughter???

  Ruth: Marrying you in-laws because you have to keep property in the family? Alright, I've had enough! This has gotten rediculous.
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  Is Faith Immoral?

  by Coded Logic in

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  when people willfully believe something without evidence, or contrary to evidence, are they neglecting thier moral responsibility?

  so many people say faith is a virtue but i just can't comprehend why anyone would think that.

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  Coded Logic, the only reason I introduced romance and hope in to this conversation is to point out that there are many good things we do that is contrary to evidence.

  The problem here is that you're comparing apples to oranges. "Romance" and "hope" are NOT beliefs, they are complex emotional desires. They do not have to meet the same standards of evidence because romance and hope are subjective experiances. Faith however, is not. Faith is a belief. And our beliefs inform our actions. Without having a good understanding of how the world works, we can't make good decisions to promote human well being.
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  Your views and ideas on forum areas and organization?

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  this may come as a shock to some people, but the current forum structure was kind of thrown together without much real thought and then evolved a bit over time.

  there are a few things that particularly grate on me and areas where i don't think the subjects work particularly well.

  'friends' is a bit vague and becomes a dumping ground, news & world events vs politics & current affairs is hard to decide sometimes, child abuse is a scandal but isn't contained withing 'scandals & coverups' etc.... with a new forum platform imminent, it's a good time to solicit ideas to improve things.

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  And also a "Like" button would be great for peoples comments.
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  Sydney Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Hall bombing case to be re-opened?

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  2. current

  road to revengedateaugust 30, 2014email articleprint.

  leonard warwick was deeply embittered by the family court's refusal to grant him full-time access to his daughter, trudi.

  litigation dragged on for years.

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  Not the first time the Kingdom hall has been attacked

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGNTMNTKmsY

  So much for Devine Protection
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  Would you go to church?

  by Coded Logic in

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  i have an unspoken rule that if someone ever invites me to a church - that i haven't been to before - i will go.

  even though i'm an atheist i'm still interested in the experiance.

  just like i'm not into basketball but i would like to go to a game sometime to feel the energy of the crowd.. growing up as a jw i've never set foot in another church.

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  I have been to church for Harvest Festival, Easter and St. Georges parade when my son was a scout. I even wore my Flying Speghetti Monster T. Shirt.

  Hail Marinara! I'm sure you made his noodly apendages proud!

  Oh our Pasta, who art in heaven, Swallowed be thy shame. Thy meal time come. Thy Sauce be yum, On top some grated Parmesan. Give us this day our garlic bread. And lead us into temptation, while delivering us some Pizza. For thine are Meatballs, and wine, and Lord Pasta, for ever and ever.

  RAmen.
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  A question for Athiests.

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.

  some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.

  i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.

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  the definition of a hypothesis as simple premise in Logic

  Yes, it is a PREMISE! Not a CONCLUSION. In logic you use/assume a premise in order to draw or support a hypothetical conclusion. But you don't use the premise asa conclusion!
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  Want New Avatar

  by Gustv Cintrn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i want this as my avatar.

  how can i change it from that awful one assigned automatically?.

  gc.

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  I made a Gravatar a week ago and it still hasn't shown up. Is there something else you have to do to get it to work?
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  Would you go to church?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have an unspoken rule that if someone ever invites me to a church - that i haven't been to before - i will go.

  even though i'm an atheist i'm still interested in the experiance.

  just like i'm not into basketball but i would like to go to a game sometime to feel the energy of the crowd.. growing up as a jw i've never set foot in another church.

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  I have an unspoken rule that if someone ever invites me to a church - that I haven't been to before - I will go. Even though I'm an atheist I'm still interested in the experiance. Just like I'm not into basketball but I would like to go to a game sometime to feel the energy of the crowd.

  Growing up as a JW I've never set foot in another church. I am currious as to what the atmosphere is like and what the pastor teaches and how people treat each other. I've often thought that since the Priest wouldn't have outlines pre written by a governing body and wouldn't have so much dogma that the services at a small church would be much more relivant and personal. Though I suppose that all depends upon what denomination the church is.

  Anyone have any experiance with this sort of thing? And if a friend invited you to attend services would you check it out?